Askoll Co2 Natural System, reload it without buying the sachets?

Dec 29

The 'Askoll Co2 Natural System is a commercial product of genius, in my humble opinion.
The cost is € 20 and 'the method of trading strasposizione DIY (Do-It-Yourself) to produce carbon dioxide in the home, price reduced, and hence provide tropical aquarium co2. We talk about small aquariums ... for the larger ones is necessary to complete the "classic" with rechargeable bottle or not and its regulator.

In the system of ASKOLL however, has the problem of refills, that is, the sachets called "Activator" and "Stabilizer", ie, compounds with the main component certainly SUGAR and a bicarbonate and lyophilized YEAST the other. In fact, after 20-30 days ending 2 packets is initially effective, the bubbles of CO2 disappear and need "recharging" the bottle. The cost of recharging is limited, this is true, we talk about 10 € for 3 refills.

If instead we create our system components?
Just sugar and yeast, preferably in small cakes. Think of the cost ... we talk to about 0.20 € per charge ...

The exact doses do not know, but ideally I could do 100 grams of sugar and 1/4 loaf of yeast.
Theoretically, one could also use the yeast to stabilize the production of carbon dioxide, pears this is recommended only if the water of the own tap has a KH of less than 10 ° ... and here in Rome are abundant around 15 ...

To test these doses'm trying it myself in my tank, so as to provide the best evidence and advice after a couple of tests "on the field."

18 comments for "Askoll Co2 Natural System, reload it without buying the bags?"

! David January 18th, 2008 at 00:14 a
Hello, you played around? you've come to the right dosage of the components? I am willing to buy a co2 diffuser and am considering this too, even if my tank is 80L. Any advice?
admin January 18th, 2008 at 9:16 2
I'm going to charge this weekend, when after 10 days of bubbles produces intense belief systems about 20 per minute. Try to use less yeast and the same amount of sugar ...
The speaker works well, with a cylinder of CO2 always prefer the classic speaker with the porosity, but it needs to pressure, to my knowledge, so the fermentation system is not working.
Emmanuel June 11th, 2008 at 18:29 3
Hello,
I also bought this aggegio and obviously I'm interested in using the refills do it yourself ... at what point did you come with the test?
Thank you very much
admin June 11th, 2008 at 20:54 4
Test abandoned ... I found a Chinese gauge at 30 euros and I reactivated the bombolona from 2 kg of CO2, and it works great, I keep 60 bubbles per minute
Emmanuel June 12th, 2008 at 14:20 5
uh .. but why have you forsaken tests?
And that 'happened?
Why did you go to the bottle?
admin June 13th, 2008 at 8:34 6
Because the cylinder is ALWAYS preferable, more controlled, less maintenance, last longer, etc..
I was already two and I also saw that they were charged.
One of 2 and 0.5 kg.
My problem was the pressure gauges, stopped after 3 years of the 2 I found them both with the safety valve "broken" or that cmq went into action immediately ...
So when I found a cheap pressure regulator, I got it and I went back to the co2 in the tank!
john February 20th, 2009 at 24:19 7
hello feel or put into operation on natural CO2 come out but not many bubbles can you tell me if there some step I'm wrong, or done as we have written about itruzioni 8 days now.
admin February 20th, 2009 at 12:54 8
Hello Mario, know what's wrong distance is really hard.
For a few bubbles do you mean? How many per minute? Use the "coil" as a provider of CO2 in the aquarium?
Why, for example those of the coil (if not mistaken is called JOLLY ... can not remember) are pretty big and little melt even during the trip.
If you make less than 20 bubbles per minute I think
- You made a mistake in the "recipe"
- The box was old and then the yeast "dead and defunct."
You can maybe try to use the same container but with yeast and sugar housewares
IGNATIUS March 20th, 2009 at 10:03 9
Hello everyone I have tried using the natural fermentation works well only demands a little more maintenance in 'cause the valves to be calibrated plastic bubbles to 20 minutes.
The doses I read all the articles are geared
100 g sugar, yeast 2/4 or so, water temperature 26 ° c
Ludwigia April 18th, 2009 at 15:31 10
What do you mean by 2/4 yeast? After you put the sugar to fill the container about 2/4 height of yeast? or use 2/4 loaf of yeast
admin April 18th, 2009 at 16:39 11
I intend the amount of yeast, ie 1/4 of dough (2/4 I think is a mistake ... otherwise he would write 1/2, is not it?)
Ludwigia April 18th, 2009 at 17:01 12
another question: at night we turn off this system? and how do you, detach the hose from the container? Then, Ignatius, speaking of the valves to adjust the bubble 20/min.Dove are these valves and how do I adjust the bubbles in a number? I hope that we speak of ' natural plant Askoll system.Grazie!
Ludwigia April 18th, 2009 at 17:06 13
for those in the know, how many bubbles you must have in the aquarium of 70 liters, or how do you calculate?
Ignace April 19th, 2009 at 18:16 14
Hello collechi aquarists I had to evolve today I have a pretty bombolaper the co2 fire extinguishers with co2 gate can not control the bubbles and you seek him too great to do more with little effort. But 'always vague and the administration of 100 liters the number of bubbles hello to those who can respond quickly
Ignace April 19th, 2009 at 18:17 15
2/4 of yeast places it means' loaf of
luighi January 23rd, 2010 at 16:44 16
or heard much chatter about it, I give you a tip in 1 liter of water to 300g of sugar in a bottle after about 23 24 degrees of temperature of the water pour! water in the bottle, after the whole thing done, dissolve in a glass 1 / 3 cake of yeast, and pour the contents into the bottle, where no water with sugar. close the whole center of cap and make a small hole where the rubber tube passes, you will see that the bubbles will begin after 7/8ore
giampy August 23rd, 2010 at 14:36 17
prejudice
I bought a askol natural system for my tank of 100 (gross)
not to buy the bags I put 1 pound of sugar warm water do dissolve well add half teaspoon of baking soda .... then melt half a stick of yeast as above the water inside the container and so true!
My problem 'after 2 days of 15 minute bubbles (with valve so adjusted output) ...... seems to have very few bubbles all over ...
why? it off?
(I state that I also put a check valve and a valvoletta to adjust co2 flow
admin August 23rd, 2010 at 15:16 18
but only 1 pound is not enough? I think it's wrong, the proportion with yeast and water